Re: [rtcweb] On video codec for rtcweb

"Timothy B. Terriberry" <tterriberry@mozilla.com> Fri, 23 March 2012 14:51 UTC

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Matthew Kaufman wrote:
 > or rather, in order to achieve interoperable communication without 
the cost
 > (and security concerns) of transcoding sites will in fact start to deny
 > service to particular users based on their choice of browser.

I agree this is an excellent argument for having _a_ mandatory to 
implement codec. But it's an argument against having that codec be an 
encumbered codec. Much better to have it be a free one that everyone is 
able to deploy. Even Microsoft (via Skype) now deploys VP8.