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Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-thomson-rtcweb-alpn-00.txt

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Wed, 09 April 2014 21:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-thomson-rtcweb-alpn-00.txt
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On 9 April 2014 13:56, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> I expect two different protocols to look different on the wire.
>
> You seem to be saying that SMTP used to talk to ietf mailing lists is a
> different protocol from SMTP used to talk to my lawyer, because I expect my
> lawyer to keep the communications confidential.

They are different on the wire.  They use different identifiers.

That's hair splitting, but there's a real difference between the two
usages.  And I think that it's important enough to do this.

Do you perhaps have an alternative, or is it just that this lack of
solidity is giving you heartburn?  Because I can appreciate that.

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