Re: Progressing BFD authentication documents

[Greg Mirsky <[e-mail]>]

Hi Jeff,
thank you for the clear and concise summary. I need to note that my
concerns are not only with how late the IPR Disclosure was made but, I want
to stress, with the licensing terms set forth by the holder of IPR that
allow for possible request of royalties from an implementor.

Regards,
Greg

On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 9:08 AM Jeffrey Haas <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Working Group,
>
> On March 28, 2018, we started Working Group Last Call on the following
> document
> bundle:
>
>   draft-ietf-bfd-secure-sequence-numbers
>   draft-ietf-bfd-optimizing-authentication
>   draft-ietf-bfd-stability
>
> The same day, Mahesh Jethanandani acknowledged there was pending IPR
> declarations against these drafts.  An IPR declaration was finally posted
> on
> November 1, 2018.  In particular, it notes a patent.  The licenseing is
> RAND.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3328/
>
> In the time since the WGLC was requested, there were a number of technical
> comments made on these drafts.  It's my belief that all substantial
> technical comments had been addressed in the last posted version of these
> documents.  Note that there was one lingering comment about Yang
> considerations for the BFD module with regard to enabling this optimized
> authentication mode which can be dealt with separably.
>
> The chairs did not carry out a further consensus call to ensure that there
> are no further outstanding technical issues.
>
> On November 21, Greg Mirsky indicated an objection to progressing the
> document due to late disclosure.
>
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/u8rvWwvDWRKI3jseGHecAB9WtDo
>
> Since we are a little over a month prior to the upcoming IETF 104, this
> seems a good time to try to decide how the Working Group shall finish this
> work.  Since we are meeting in Prague, this may progress to microphone
> conversation.
>
> For the moment, the chairs' perceived status of the documents are:
> - No pending technical issues with the documents with one known issue.
> - Concerns over late disclosure of IPR.
> - No solid consensus from the Working Group that we're ready to proceed.
>   This part may be covered by a future consensus call, but let's hear list
>   discussion first.
>
> -- Jeff
>
>