[RTG-DIR] Harmful consequences of Postel's principle

"BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com> Tue, 07 May 2019 16:11 UTC

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From: "BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A" <db3546@att.com>
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Hi,

Not sure if this document caught your attention as I think it is a bit of a misnomer for the title. The IAB are looking to publish it as an IAB document.

I'm going to comment on it as I think to make a generic statement that Postel's principle is harmful is harmful.

Interested in your thoughts-
Deborah


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Internet Architecture Board IETF of the IETF.

        Title           : The Harmful Consequences of the Robustness Principle
        Author          : Martin Thomson
	Filename        : draft-iab-protocol-maintenance-03.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2019-05-06

Abstract:
   Jon Postel's famous statement of "Be liberal in what you accept, and
   conservative in what you send" is a principle that has long guided
   the design and implementation of Internet protocols.  The posture
   this statement advocates promotes interoperability in the short term,
   but can negatively affect the protocol ecosystem over time.  For a
   protocol that is actively maintained, the robustness principle can,
   and should, be avoided.


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