Re: Draft L1VPN Charter
Alex Zinin <zinin@psg.com> Thu, 05 May 2005 01:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: Draft L1VPN Charter
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Hmmm... endorsement? I thought it was about cooperation, whatever that means, no? -- Alex http://www.psg.com/~zinin Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 4:35:09 PM, Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be wrote: > alex, i understand ... the reason is to be clear in terms of protocol > work endorsement (also CCAMP WG was triggered by SG13 during Seoul > meeting) ... but indeed worth re-explaining the rules of the game > Alex Zinin <zinin@psg.com> > 05/04/2005 15:48 MST > Please respond to Alex Zinin > To:Igor Bryskin <i_bryskin@yahoo.com> > cc:Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL@ALCATEL, Adrian Farrel > <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, rtg-dir@ietf.org, Kireeti Kompella > <kireeti@juniper.net>, <takeda.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp> > bcc: > Subject:Re: Draft L1VPN Charter > Makes my skin crawl after the ITU NGN workshop earlier this week, but I can > add that. Will have to talk to the future WG chairs to clearly explain that > this shouldn't become a DoS... > -- > Alex > http://www.psg.com/~zinin > Wednesday, May 4, 2005, 10:23:32 AM, Igor Bryskin wrote: >> Good idea. >> Igor >> Dimitri.Papadimitriou@alcatel.be wrote: >> igor, all - now that i am thinking of it there is probably a need to >> add a sentence like "The WG will also liaise with related ITU-T SGs" >> after "... and other WGs where necessary." >> Igor Bryskin <i_bryskin@yahoo.com> >> Sent by: rtg-dir-bounces@ietf.org >> 05/04/2005 07:18 MST >> To: Alex Zinin <zinin@psg.com>, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, >> Dimitri PAPADIMITRIOU/BE/ALCATEL@ALCATEL, rtg-dir@ietf.org, Kireeti >> Kompella <kireeti@juniper.net>, takeda.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp >> cc: >> bcc: >> Subject: Re: Draft L1VPN Charter >> Alex, All >> 2. Enhanced mode: the CE-PE interface provides the signaling capabilities >> as in the Basic mode, plus permits utilization of the provider's control >> plane for distribution of user's routing information (e.g. similar to the >> MPLS/BGP model). >> I'd like to replace this with: >> 2. Enhanced mode: the CE-PE interface provides the signaling capabilities >> as in the Basic mode, plus permits utilization of the provider's control >> plane for distribution of user's arbitrary control plane information >> between the VPN sites including but not limited to routing information. >> Provider network IHMO should make no assumptions on what protocols are >> running within VPNs. Generally speaking, a L1VPN user is not necessarily >> GMPLS controlled network. Furthermore, even in case it does use GMPLS it >> needs L1VPN CE-CE connections to provide (TE) links within VPNs. >> Specifically, the User should be capable to run LMP for such links, it >> also should be possible to establish signaling (RSVP) adjacencies between >> their ends, etc. The bottom line is that distribution of routing >> information between CEs IHMO is not sufficient. I believe this is >> consistent with the requirements stated in ITU-T SG13 L1VPN documents >> Igor >> Alex Zinin <zinin@psg.com> wrote: >> Folks- >> Before we bring it to the l1vpn mailing list, I'd like to run this draft >> by you guys for comments.
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Alex Zinin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Igor Bryskin
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Loa Andersson
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Dimitri.Papadimitriou
- Re: Draft L1VPN Charter Loa Andersson
- Interface with ITU [was: Re: Draft L1VPN Charter] Alex Zinin