Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts
Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Wed, 06 April 2011 00:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts
From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
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Curtis, Andras is familiar with the problem IPFRR is trying to solve. As I understand it, there are 3 separate questions: a) Is a multicast distribution mechanism that can report bad news quickly & survive single failures useful? b) Is this useful for an IGP to speed network convergence? c) If one assumes very rapid ( speed of light) delays for remote failures, what pre-computation and FIB installation could be possible? I have not heard requirements and rationale sufficient yet. Security is also a concern - but the first questions are whether any mechanism is desirable. Alia 2011/4/5 Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com>: > > In message <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929720E74AF21C@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> > András Császár writes: >> >> Dear All, >> >> Note that fn-transport already is at version 01. Links to the docs: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lu-fn-transport-01 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-csaszar-ipfrr-fn-00 >> >> We'd really appreciate comments and suggestions. >> >> András > > > Same comment as on the OSPF mailing list. This is attacking a > non-problem. > > Flooding time is not a problem on modern implementations, unless the > implementation is badly designed or badly coded. > > IPFRR is intended to eliminate the need for an SPF and route > download and the need to contact any other router in any way to get an > initial repair done. That is a different problem. > > Curtis > > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] >> > On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura >> > Sent: 2011. március 29. 14:58 >> > To: rtgwg@ietf.org >> > Subject: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts >> > >> > Hi rtgwg, >> > >> > The authors would like to solicit comments from the workgroup. >> > >> > draft-lu-fn-transport-00 >> > draft-csaszar-ipfrr-fn-00 >> > >> > Thank you in advance! >> > >> > Regards, >> > Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > >
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Curtis Villamizar
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Curtis Villamizar
- fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Jeff Tantsura
- RE: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts András Császár
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Curtis Villamizar
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Alia Atlas
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts mike shand
- RE: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts András Császár
- RE: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts András Császár
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Peter Psenak
- Re: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts Stewart Bryant
- RE: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts John E Drake
- RE: fn-transport/ipfrr drafts András Császár