Re: Power consumption reduction in edge and core routers in the internet

[Balaji Venkat <[e-mail]>]

Dear Curtis,

We used nroffedit for preparing these drafts and forgot to delete the default references that got stuck in there. 

We intended these to be serious material.

If you could comment on the specifics of why you disagree with our proposals it would be most beneficial.

Regards
Balaji

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On 09-Sep-2012, at 1:32 AM, Curtis Villamizar <[e-mail]> wrote:

> 
> In message <[e-mail]>
> balaji venkat Venkataswami writes:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> After due consultation with the chairs and IRTF folks we have been
>> instructed to ask for discussion on the following drafts that deal with
>> power consumption reduction in edge and core devices in the internet.
>> 
>> We deal with the problem in a hierarchical approach. One within an
>> Autonomous System and the other between Autonomous Systems and hence for the
>> whole internet.
>> 
>> We duly submit to you this work that we have done for your kind review and
>> consideration.
>> 
>> We deal with solutions for unicast and multicast at the AS level and the
>> intra-AS level. Multicast solutions mostly in the intra-AS level.
>> 
>> We submit this work and request you to comment on it.
>> 
>> Multicast intra-AS level
>> * mjsraman-pce-power-replic
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-pce-power-replic>  (timeline)
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-pce-power-replic-timing
>> .html> 
>> * mjsraman-pim-ecmp-redirect-power-replic-cap
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-pim-ecmp-redirect-power-replic-ca
>> p>  (timeline) 
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-pim-ecmp-redirect-power
>> -replic-cap-timing.html>
>> Unicast AS level
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-bgp-power-path
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-bgp-power-path>  (timeline)
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-bgp-power-path-ti
>> ming.html> 
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp>  (timeline)
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-timi
>> ng.html> 
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp>  (timeline)
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-timi
>> ng.html> 
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-protect
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-protect>
>> (timeline) 
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-prot
>> ect-timing.html> 
>> Unicast intra-AS level
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-intra-as-psp-te-leak
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-intra-as-psp-te-leak>
>> (timeline) 
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-intra-as-psp-te-l
>> eak-timing.html> 
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-ospf-power-topo
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-ospf-power-topo>
>> (timeline) 
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-ospf-power-topo-t
>> iming.html> 
>> Multicast intra-AS level
>> * mjsraman-rtgwg-pim-power
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-pim-power>  (timeline)
>> <http://www.arkko.com/tools/lifecycle/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-pim-power-timing.
>> html> 
>> 
>> Thanks again to the WG and IETF chairs for letting us share our work with
>> this group.
>> 
>> Thanks and regards
>> Shankar and team
> 
> 
> My first reaction was that this was just a really bad idea from some
> students who didn't understand very much about how provider networks
> were built.
> 
> But looking at some of the citations I'm wondering if this whole thing
> is just a joke.
> 
>  draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-ospf-power-topo-01
> 
>   [EVILBIT]  Bellovin, S., "The Security Flag in the IPv4 Header",
>              RFC 3514, April 1 2003.
> 
>   [RFC5513]  Farrel, A., "IANA Considerations for Three Letter
>              Acronyms", RFC 5513, April 1 2009.
> 
>   [RFC5514] Vyncke, E., "IPv6 over Social Networks", RFC 5514, April
>             1 2009.
> 
> I'm really hoping the whole thing is a joke, but unfortunately I do
> think that you are seriously proposing this.  Just confirming first.
> 
> Curtis