RE: Tunnel Design Philosophy

"Aijun Wang" <13301168517@189.cn> Mon, 02 November 2015 06:07 UTC

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Hi, Zhenbin:

 

Sorry for that I can¡¯t attend the ongoing IETF meeting this time,  but I
have discussed/exchanged the possible problems/suggestions on this topic
with the other author(Mr. Zitao Wang) of
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wwz-netmod-yang-tunnel-cfg/.  He can
participate this meeting and discuss with you for this topic.

And I had expressed the initial opinions of mine on this topic. You can also
reflect your consideration  for this thread.  By doing so, we can hear also
other experts¡¯ feedbacks in more broad range.

 

We can meet in individually later J

 

Best Regards.

 

Aijun Wang

 

China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute 

Intelligent Network Product Line

 

 

 

From: Lizhenbin [mailto:lizhenbin@huawei.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 11:21 PM
To: Aijun Wang; rtgwg@ietf.org
Subject: ´ð¸´: Tunnel Design Philosophy

 

Aijun,

Are you in Yokohama? Regarding your tunnel design philosophy, I would like
to have a discussion with you before I do the presentation in RTGWG on
Thursday.

 

 

Best Regards,

Zhenbin(Robin)

 

 

 

 

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[wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn]
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Hi, RTGWGer and NETMODer:

 

Here I want to ask for advices from any expert that is familiar with the
usages and designs of various tunnel technologies that are wide deployed
within the network.

What is the principle and philosophy about the design of Yang Model for
these tunnel technologies?

 

Currently, there are several drafts that has touches this area, but there
are some confusions about their designs, for example:

1. Can we organize these tunnel related-Yang models under one common tree?

2. What is the relationship between the tunnel related-Yang model and the
interface Yang Model? 

 

Our opinion is that Yang Model is one design tool/language used to standard
the interface between the service provider and device(Device Yang Model),
and between the service provider and their customer(Service Yang Model),
then the design of them should from top to down, find the general aspects of
every model branch first and augment them with specific technology later.
This seems more common to all the Model/Object design language.

 

So, for above two questions, we recommend to design one general
tunnel-related Yang model that augments from the interface Yang model, and
expand to it to cover the various specific tunnel technologies. Doing so has
the following benefits:

1. we can focus first the common characteristic of tunnel technology,
especially the static tunnel technologies(dynamic tunnel for example MPLS-TE
tunnel is the exception)

2. the appearance of the tunnel on router/switch are all one kind of
interface. If it augments from the interface tunnel, it can inherit many
variables of the interface Yang model.(several drafts have shown their
overlapping design of these variables.)

 

So, how about your opinion and the reason to do them?

Wish can hear more valuable suggestions on the design of the Tunnel-related
Yang Model.

 

Current available drafts about the Tunnel ¨Crelated Yang Model are bellows:

1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-l2tpext-keyed-v6-tunnel-yang-00

2. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wwz-netmod-yang-tunnel-cfg/

3. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wilton-netmod-intf-vlan-yang/

4. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-rtgwg-ipipv4-tunnel-yang/

5. http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-rtgwg-utunnel-yang/

6. https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-00.txt( This draft is
one exception, and seems can¡¯t be generalized with other five drafts) 

 

Best Regards.

 

 

Aijun Wang

 

China Telecom Corporation Limited Beijing Research Institute 

Intelligent Network Product Line