[Rum] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-rum-rue-09: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: [Rum] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-rum-rue-09: (with DISCUSS)
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Zaheduzzaman Sarker has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-rum-rue-09: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rum-rue/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- First of all thanks for working on this technology to make communication available and easy for special human beings. (I have worked with them to converter text to sign language in my bachelor hence had a special feeling while reading this specification). I understood from the email discussions on the TSVART review (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsv-art/Z_Ne5au4rCHwcig8bospMcLyzTc/) that in the system RUI is deployed, we will have gateway(s) with two legs - one with WebRTC (client <--> gateway) and one with RUI client communicating with RUI server (gateway <--> server). With this understanding I have some points which I believe worth discussing. - WebRTC communication will be congestion and rate controlled. This will use RTCP feedbacks to make the rate control and congestion control happen in the WebRTC peers. On the WebRTC part of the leg, this RTCP feedbacks will be available according to the WebRTC specification. However, this specification does not discuss how those RTCP feedback will be converted from the RUI server to RUI client (i.e the gateway) direction and vice versa. This will require the gateway to have such conversion functions to actually work. what is the thinking here? has this been considered? as I am not sure how is the network looks like between the RUI client and RUI server, there might be the Internet connecting them hence need to have congestion controlled traffic. - Thanks to Bernard Aboba for a comprehensive TSVART review of this draft and I would like to bring some issues, identified in that review, here to make sure they are addressed- * clarification on the use of ICE * clarification on what is a WebRTC client, WebRTC server, gateway, RUI client and RUI server. I believe all four have been conceptually used in the specification without concretely defining their roles. for example - if server is mentioned it need to be distinguishable if it is WebRTC server or RUI server ( I noted that there are servers in this specification which are clearly understandable).
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