[saag] Re: Government–Industry Dialogue Public Side Meeting at IETF 126 Vienna

[Muhammad Usama Sardar <[e-mail]>]

Hi John,

Thanks for organizing this. It is great to have government and industry 
together.

However, could you please clarify whether you want to have "Public Side 
Meeting" or "Private Meeting" as mentioned in [0]? While I am 
interested, your current framing seems not to allow me to participate, 
as I am neither in government nor in industry.

The subject of email says "Public Side Meeting" but as formally stated 
on the official webpage of the side meetings [0]: (*emphasis* my own)

    [Public] Side meetings should be *open* and free to attend to *any
    registered* IETF participant.

So if you want to have Public Side Meeting, I don't think you can limit 
it to government and industry participants. Often government and 
industry participants do not have the time or skills to do the formal 
proofs. Mostly academic and research institute participants help in that 
perspective, and sometimes even find some subtle cases or useful 
assumptions, which may not be obvious while just looking at the 
protocol. I don't see a good reason to exclude such participants.


On the other hand, if you want to have Private Meeting, my understanding 
from [0] is that you would be welcome to limit it to whatever you want, 
but then I don't think you can use the Public Side Meeting rooms for that.


On 17.07.26 08:06, John Mattsson wrote:
> Post-Quantum Cryptography: Government–Industry Dialogue
>
> This side meeting will bring together government and industry 
> stakeholders to discuss [...]

In particular, I find the above scoping of participants problematic for 
Public Side Meeting. So please clarify.

Best,

-Usama


[0] https://www.ietf.org/meeting/side-meetings/