Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IEC 19790:2012 as the U.S. Federal Standard for cryptographic modules
David Lloyd-Jones <david.lloydjones@gmail.com> Sat, 15 August 2015 11:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IEC 19790:2012 as the U.S. Federal Standard for cryptographic modules
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Stephen, None of http://csrc.nist.gov/news_events/#aug12 http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/PubsFIPS.html#140-2 http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=52906 http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=52906 is behind a paywall. What is it you have "heard," Stephen, that has given Phil this avalanche of "reason to object"? I wouldn't be surprised if some of the documentation within those catalogues costs money. There was a time in the early days of Oracle when the docs for their basic database software cost US$6,000. I paid US$92 for my IBM equivalent a few years ago, but these are not paywalls. They are costs of operating docs. (I suspect that that $6,000 was because Larry knew he was working the American taxpayer over just one time, and in 1983 that was still real money to him: gas for the motorbike, not the jet.) Is it a question of that sort of thing? Parenthetically, I notice that the correspondence thread "Information Security" over on Google+ has recently fractured in two, I would guess because the main feed is full of juvenile ranting. -dlj. On 15 August 2015 at 04:23, Phil Lello <phil@dunlop-lello.uk> wrote: > I'm not in the US or trading with US companies, so presumably not > affected, but the paywall alone sounds like a reasonable grounds to object > to me - it prevents reasonable review by people with no reason to buy the > standard, and presumably also creates a smaller pool of suppliers (since it > will eliminate those who don't buy the spec). {snipped} >
- [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IEC 19… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Phil Lello
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… David Lloyd-Jones
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… William Whyte
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Richard Barnes
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Russ Housley
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Mark D. Baushke
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Phil Lello
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Richard Barnes
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Michael Richardson
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [saag] NIST requests comments on using ISO/IE… Jeffrey Walton