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Re: [SCITT] Repos

Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> Thu, 16 February 2023 22:38 UTC

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From: Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com>
To: 'Steve Lasker' <StevenLasker@hotmail.com>, scitt@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [SCITT] Repos
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Ok, thanks.

 

Thanks,

 

Dick Brooks

  

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Sector Coordinating Council - A Public-Private Partnership

 

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Tel: +1 978-696-1788

 

From: Steve Lasker <StevenLasker@hotmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 5:37 PM
To: dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com; scitt@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [SCITT] Repos

 

A dev branch suggests it's active and content is promoted from one to the
other.

This is a transition. It was a conscious decision to not "transfer" the
repo, rather to copy it. The
https://github.com/ietf-scitt/draft-birkholz-scitt-architecture repo will be
archived (made readonly)
<https://github.com/ietf-scitt/draft-birkholz-scitt-architecture/issues/45>
so all new activity should be under https://ietf-
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fietf-wg-sc
itt.github.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106dacf2%7C84df9e
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> wg-scitt.github.io

 

From: Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com
<mailto:dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:32 PM
To: 'Steve Lasker' <StevenLasker@hotmail.com
<mailto:StevenLasker@hotmail.com> >; scitt@ietf.org <mailto:scitt@ietf.org> 
Subject: RE: [SCITT] Repos

 

Steve,

 

Thanks for the clarification. 

So https://github.com/ietf-scitt
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%2Fietf-scitt&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106dacf2%7C84df9e7fe
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C%7C%7C&sdata=GTawIFE9C1nMstIlDHTtgwHQ7mJqM0bAAWAJ1E961K0%3D&reserved=0>  is
the DEV branch and

https://ietf-
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itt.github.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106dacf2%7C84df9e
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> wg-scitt.github.io is the Master branch for the SCITT published documents
that will be accessible from here:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/scitt/documents/
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r.ietf.org%2Fwg%2Fscitt%2Fdocuments%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5f
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Is this correct?

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

Dick Brooks

  

Active Member of the CISA Critical Manufacturing Sector, 

Sector Coordinating Council - A Public-Private Partnership

 

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Email: dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com

Tel: +1 978-696-1788

 

From: Steve Lasker <StevenLasker@hotmail.com
<mailto:StevenLasker@hotmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 5:28 PM
To: dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com
<mailto:dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> ; scitt@ietf.org
<mailto:scitt@ietf.org> 
Subject: RE: [SCITT] Repos

 

I'm changing the subject to reflect the fork of the discussion.

 

Yes, that would be the plan. 

 

https://github.com/ietf-scitt
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%2Fietf-scitt&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106dacf2%7C84df9e7fe
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are the drafts, being submitted to IETF, but not yet adopted.

https://ietf-
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itt.github.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106dacf2%7C84df9e
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> wg-scitt.github.io are the adopted IETF specs that are progressing as a
working group.

 

Side note: we're considering renaming https://github.com/ietf-scitt
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com
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2yRs%3D&reserved=0> -drafts-scitt/ to be more clear. "Naming is hard"

 

 

From: Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com
<mailto:dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 2:16 PM
To: 'Steve Lasker' <StevenLasker@hotmail.com
<mailto:StevenLasker@hotmail.com> >; scitt@ietf.org <mailto:scitt@ietf.org> 
Subject: RE: [SCITT] Architecture Doc Reviews

 

Steve,

 

Thanks for clarifying.

 

The current use case draft is located under

https://github.com/ietf-scitt/draft-birkholz-scitt-software-supply-chain-use
-cases
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Will it also be moving to

https://ietf-
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itt.github.io%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106dacf2%7C84df9e
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ed=0> wg-scitt.github.io/   

 

Thanks,

 

Dick Brooks

  

Active Member of the CISA Critical Manufacturing Sector, 

Sector Coordinating Council - A Public-Private Partnership

 

Never trust software, always verify and report!
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ergyanalytics.com%2Fproducts&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c4af3c694b51c5fd08db106da
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Tel: +1 978-696-1788

 

From: Steve Lasker <StevenLasker@hotmail.com
<mailto:StevenLasker@hotmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 5:12 PM
To: dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com
<mailto:dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> ; scitt@ietf.org
<mailto:scitt@ietf.org> 
Subject: RE: [SCITT] Architecture Doc Reviews

 

Hi Dick,

Yeah, the published version below is from https://github.com/
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%2Fietf-scitt%2Fdraft-birkholz-scitt-architecture%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cf3d8c
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ietf-scitt/draft-birkholz-scitt-architecture/

 

We've been discussing archiving this repo
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From: Dick Brooks <dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com
<mailto:dick@reliableenergyanalytics.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 1:50 PM
To: 'Steve Lasker' <StevenLasker@hotmail.com
<mailto:StevenLasker@hotmail.com> >; scitt@ietf.org <mailto:scitt@ietf.org> 
Subject: RE: [SCITT] Architecture Doc Reviews

 

Steve,

 

I'm a little confused. How do these document relate, or not?

 

Are alternative options?

 

https://github.com/ietf-wg-scitt/draft-ietf-scitt-architecture
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https://ietf-scitt.github.io/draft-birkholz-scitt-architecture/draft-birkhol
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Thanks,

 

Dick Brooks

  

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Sector Coordinating Council - A Public-Private Partnership

 

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From: SCITT <scitt-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:scitt-bounces@ietf.org> > On
Behalf Of Steve Lasker
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2023 4:45 PM
To: scitt@ietf.org <mailto:scitt@ietf.org> 
Subject: [SCITT] Architecture Doc Reviews

 

Hi folks,

As the use cases are stabilizing, we'd like to make progress on the
architecture document
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The proposal is to make this weekly, recognizing it may overlap with the
scitt-community call, which we can adjust based on the weekly agenda. 

Please vote on the day/time, not specific to the date:
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