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Re: [secdir] review of draft-ietf-mmusic-connectivity-precon-06

"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Mon, 19 October 2009 16:11 UTC

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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Hartman [mailto:hartmans-ietf@mit.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:06 AM
> To: Gonzalo Camarillo
> Cc: Stephen Kent; fluffy@cisco.com; secdir@ietf.org; 
> oran@cisco.com; fandreas@cisco.com; dwing@cisco.com; 
> rjsparks@nostrum.com
> Subject: Re: [secdir] review of 
> draft-ietf-mmusic-connectivity-precon-06
> 
> >>>>> "Gonzalo" == Gonzalo Camarillo 
> <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> writes:
> 
>     Gonzalo> [RFC4032], it is strongly RECOMMENDED that integrity
>     Gonzalo> protection be applied to the SDP session descriptions.
>     Gonzalo> S/MIME [RFC3853] provides such end- to-end integrity
>     Gonzalo> protection, as described in [RFC3261]. Additionally, the
> 
> 
> I'm surprised you're referencing S/MIME here rather than something
> like identity.
> I understand none of the above  have huge deployment, but I 
> thought we had a fairly strong understanding that S/MIME was 
> not the direction we were moving towards.

You're right.  S/MIME doesn't work and and isn't used.  The 
suggestion for integrity protection should be RFC4474 ("SIP 
Identity").

-d

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