Re: [secdir] secdir review of draft-ietf-dime-overload-reqs-11

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Tue, 10 September 2013 03:24 UTC

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On Sep 9, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Jouni Korhonen <jouni.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Folks,
> 
> So if I got it right, the last sentence of the Req13 will be removed and
> the Req31 stays as it is now.
> 
> This would be fine with me.
> 

That is my understanding. Or more precisely, the last sentence of Req13 will be removed, and nothing else will change.


> - JOuni
> 
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:27 AM, Carl Wallace <carl@redhoundsoftware.com> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The intent was that the overload condition has granularity. That is, the
>>> overloaded node indicates an overload condition with some granularity,
>>> and later ends it. The act of ending doesn't change the granularity. We
>>> don't have an explicit requirement to be able to change the granularity
>>> of an existing condition. (Although we do not prevent a solution from
>>> offering that ability--but I suspect if the solution did that, it would
>>> involve multiple concurrent overload conditions, or ending one condition
>>> and starting another.)
>> 
>> Got it.  Thanks.  
>> 
>> 
>