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Re: [secdir] [jose] JWK member names, was: SECDIR review of draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-31

Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com> Mon, 15 September 2014 21:27 UTC

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From: Tim Bray <tbray@textuality.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 14:25:55 -0700
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Subject: Re: [secdir] [jose] JWK member names, was: SECDIR review of draft-ietf-jose-json-web-key-31
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On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> wrote:

I read the rationale. Is there a good baseline of experience showing that
> JSON parsers are
> not very exploitable today?
>

​Well, increasingly, more or less every Internet facing API is
JSON-over-HTTP; the amount of JSON in circulation is huge. So, nothing in
the world is 100% debugged, but production JSON parsers are among the
better-tested software suites in the world.  It also helps that the JSON
format is very stripped-down and doesn’t provide a very rich attack
surface.​

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