Re: Shim6 proxies
Erik Nordmark <erik.nordmark@sun.com> Tue, 18 April 2006 00:25 UTC
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From: Erik Nordmark <erik.nordmark@sun.com>
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To: Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: Shim6 proxies
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Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Excuse front posting but these comments are quite general. > > What Scott is describing is essentially full offload of the > shim and the bottom part of the stack. We'd actually end > up with two IP stacks - one in the host which just sends > packets to the offload device, and a second one in the > offload device which has a shim on top of it. I'd want to > see a complete architecture for that including a demonstration > that the security architecture of shim6 isn't damaged, > and analysis of the trust model and threat model > between the host and the offload device. But if it can be > done, it has a very nice property - it actually offers > a practical way to implement something that works much like > 8+8. The offload device will be state-heavy though; it will > need to carry state per session for every host it's supporting. FWIW I think draft-nordmark-shim6-esd is more in the spirit of a 8+8 implementation (as 16+16); 8+8/GSE has the property that the host that initiates communication has multiple destination addresses to choose between. Once packets start flowing in 8+8/GSE/16+16, the routers have the opportunity to influence the addresses by rewriting the source locator. Erik
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