Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-02.txt

Terry Manderson <terry.manderson@icann.org> Thu, 08 September 2011 09:47 UTC

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From: Terry Manderson <terry.manderson@icann.org>
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Hi Randy,

It strikes me that this is the first time you have read this draft despite
the several calls to the WG to do so. That's not bad exactly... just
unexpected.


On 8/09/11 4:42 PM, "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> i do not think this document is at all ready for publication.  someone
> with time and energy to clean up the wording needs to spend a half day
> with the poor thing.

I'm less interested in your abrupt critique and certainly much more
interested in constructive reviews of which you started below and then gave
up..

> 
> ---
> 
> 1.2 i believe that redefining AS and ASN are ill-advised.  just refer
> elsewhere.  we readlly do not want to go there.  e.g. there are a lot of
> ASs which are not under a single administrative control.
> 
> if you insist on defining it, i would probably s/route/as-path/
> 
> Aggregate Route makes an assumption that 'more general' and 'specific'
> are well definined.  maybe try something like shorter and longer
> netmask, or greater or smaller prefix mask length.
> 
> 'Covering Aggregate' uses 'cover' in its definition, which makes it
> pretty useless.
> 
> 'Multi-homed prefix' is 'originated via'.  is it transited via/through
> or originated by/from?
> 
> ...
> 
>    3.1.  Single Announcement
> 
>    An organization (Org A with ASN 64496) has been allocated the prefix
>    192.168.2.0/24.  It wishes to announce the /24 prefix from ASN 64496
>    such that relying parties interpret the route as intended.
> 
> look at rfc 5737 IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation

>From time to time authors choose to use non rfc5737 address blocks as the
examples can't often be adequately described or remain uniform with the
documentation prefixes.

> 
> i could go on and on.

Please do.. send to me off list if you choose.

Cheers
Terry