Re: [Sidrops] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

Ben Maddison <benm@workonline.africa> Fri, 20 March 2020 09:57 UTC

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On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 18:36 -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
> > BGP implementations have to take removal of private AS(s),
> > confederation, AS migration, etc into consideration.
> 
> and the winds of summer.  we do not need to enumerate all knobs, as
> if we could.
> 
But enumerating *some* helps the reader understand the context in which
this is important/useful.

Cheers,

Ben