Re: [Sidrops] WG Adoption call for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-avoid-rpki-state-in-bgp - ENDS 04/09/2024 (April 9 2024)

Tony Tauber <ttauber@1-4-5.net> Thu, 04 April 2024 15:59 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WG Adoption call for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-avoid-rpki-state-in-bgp - ENDS 04/09/2024 (April 9 2024)
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I agree (about some documentation, vendor or otherwise recommending) and
also support WG adoption of this Draft.

Thanks,
Tony

On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 5:13 PM Dale W. Carder <dwcarder@es.net> wrote:

> Thus spake Keyur Patel (keyur=40arrcus.com@dmarc.ietf.org) on Tue, Mar
> 26, 2024 at 04:11:39PM +0000:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > The authors have requested SIDROPS working group adoption call of
> "Guidance to Avoid Carrying RPKI Validation States in Transitive BGP Path
> Attributes"
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-avoid-rpki-state-in-bgp/
> .
> >
> > Please send your comments to the list. The adoption call will end on
> April 9th, 2024.
>
> I think this is a very useful document.  At the scale of RPKI deployment
> we are seeing in the DFZ at this point, I admit I worry even about
> rfc8097 usage within a sufficiently large autonomous system, as some
> vendor documents recommend its configuration (seemingly whether or not
> anything is actually going to consume it)
>
> Dale
>
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