Re: [Sidrops] draft-sidrops-bruijnzeels-deprecate-rsync

Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@nlnetlabs.nl> Tue, 21 April 2020 11:07 UTC

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Hi,

> On 20 Apr 2020, at 20:54, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sidrops-bruijnzeels-deprecate-rsync/
> 
> quite willing to discuss this and am still willing to co-author if you
> wish.  but i am pretty firm about not breaking the running internet.
> 
> to quote myself from last year
> 
>    great to get the draft out there.  wish it was more specific about
>    how this is operationally accomplished.  e.g. from the discussion i
>    was trying to have with you:
> 
>    0 - publishers publish rcynic and some rrdp.  rps use rcynic and some
> 	use rrdp
>    1 - all publishers offer both.
>    2 - then you can ask all rps to move to rrdp and prefer it
>    3 - you can see, at the publishers, when no rcynic requests come
>    4 - you can turn off rcynic at the publishers
>    5 - you can remove rcynic from the rps
> 
> whether we like it or not, there are a significan number of rcynic-only
> relying parties out there.  we need to help and encourage the
> transition.  we MAY NOT break the running internet.

I agree with your approach, now that it's really only Lacnic who still need to do work on this. They have told me *informally* that they think it can be done this year, but that was before covid. Still, the will is there and it should not be show stopper.

Shall I try to spin a new version with these changes and send it to both of you by Thursday? Do you both want to co-author?

Thanks
Tim




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