[Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Origin Validation
Ketan Talaulikar <ketant.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 17 March 2026 03:36 UTC
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2026 09:05:59 +0530
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Subject: [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Origin Validation
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+ Med On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 8:57 AM Job Snijders <job@bsd.nl> wrote: > Dear Susan, > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2026 at 03:12:36AM +0000, Susan Hares wrote: > > The IDR WG is revising its charter. As the maintenance WG for BGP, we > > are trying to make sure that no set of BGP standards get orphaned. > > > thank you for that! > > > > SIDR OPS charter states: > > "The global deployment of Secure Inter-Domain Routing (SIDR), consisting > of Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI), Origin Validation of BGP > announcements, and BGPsec (RFC 8205< > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc8205/>) is still underway, creating > an Internet Routing System consisting of SIDR-aware and non-SIDR-aware > networks." > > > > It further states: > > > > * Maintain RPKI technology stack. > > * Maintain RPKI-Router protocol, including specifying extensions, > updates, and new protocol versions. > > And: > > > > * Develop solutions for identified issues. This includes in > particular: > > ..... > > > > * Standardizing protocols and protocol extensions to improve > operational efficiency and security of SIDR such as Autonomous System > Provider Authorization (ASPA) and reliable cache synchronization mechanisms. > > > > So, SIDRops - has RPKI-Router, ASPA, > > SIDRops - does not have BGPSec or Origin Validation (RFC6811) > > > > The SIDR chair is silent on the Origin Validation of BGP announcements. > > > > ======== > > RFC6811 and its updates (RFC8411, RFC8893) do not specifically belong to > SIDRops. > > > > Based on my comment about being the maintainer of the BGP Protocol, > > The IDR chairs wish to make sure RFC6811 and its updates (RFC8411, > RFC8893) have a home. > > > > Did you miss this in your charter revision or do you want IDR to maintain > > Origin Validation? > > > Whoops, this seems a bit of an oversight in the last round of revising > the SIDROPS charter. I think we missed BGP Prefix Origin Validation > (also known as Route Origin Validation, ROV). > > I think RFC 6811, RFC 8893, and RFC 8481 and potential -bis projects or > variants thereof belong with SIDROPS and align well with similar existing > adopted work (for example, draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification and > draft-ietf-sidrops-spl-verification). > > Kind regards, > > Job >
- [Sidrops] Charter question for SIDRops on Origin … Susan Hares
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… Job Snijders
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… Ketan Talaulikar
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… mohamed.boucadair
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… Susan Hares
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… mohamed.boucadair
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… Susan Hares
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… Job Snijders
- [Sidrops] Re: Charter question for SIDRops on Ori… Susan Hares