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Re: [Sidrops] what to do when the CRL is hosed?

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Mon, 24 February 2020 22:19 UTC

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To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] what to do when the CRL is hosed?
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I think you may be right in absolute terms. You are likely wrong that unless you have cached CRL experience saying it's bad you have no reason to distrust. 

Also cryptographically signed data can be sent insecurely and be validated against change or tampering. Perhaps you are worried about privacy?

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> On Feb 24, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> wrote:
> 
> Of course - in making strong statements like this one I can not afford
> to assume I am right, so if you disagree - please tell me how I am wrong
> (in detail :-) ).

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