[Sidrops] Validation re-reconsidered [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update-03.txt]

Job Snijders <job@fastly.com> Tue, 07 November 2023 19:33 UTC

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Subject: [Sidrops] Validation re-reconsidered [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update-03.txt]
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Dear all,

I refreshed this draft.

The rpki-client team is preparing to implement Geoff Huston & George
Michaelson's 2014 validation algorithm and will report back on our
progress in 2024. Some notes:

- We do not expect or anticipate CAs to cooperate or coordinate: there
  are too many CAs. The solution must come from the RP developer
  community.

- X.509 policy identifiers & mappings are not the right tool for the
  job.

- A more robust (less rigid) validation algorithm is a prerequisite for
  unified single-source root(s), which I'd like to work towards.

- We are not concerned about different RP implementations behaving
  differently, as that's always been the case. Sure - it seems it would
  be nice if there was absolute deterministic behaviour across all
  implementations & versions, but all RP implementations are the result
  of progressive insight anyway.

I challenge people with a dissenting opinion to articulate in detail
what security issues the 2014 validation algorithm introduces. I only
see advantages, especially when rechaining existing PKI trees to a new
root.

Some Dutch wisdom: "Better to have turned half way, than completely gone
astray." :-)

Kind regards,

Job

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2023 10:34:54 -0800
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Ben Maddison <benm@workonline.africa>, Job Snijders <job@fastly.com>
Subject: New Version Notification for
	draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update-03.txt

A new version of Internet-Draft
draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update-03.txt has been successfully
submitted by Job Snijders and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name:     draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update
Revision: 03
Title:    RPKI Validation Re-reconsidered
Date:     2023-11-07
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    10
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update-03.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update/
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update
Diff:     https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update-03

Abstract:

   This document describes an improved validation procedure for Resource
   Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) signed objects.  This document
   updates RFC 6482.  This document updates RFC 6487.  This document
   obsoletes RFC 8360.



The IETF Secretariat



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