Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Wed, 17 May 2006 10:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt
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Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >Dave Cridland wrote: > >>I think I might be the first person to comment about this on the list... >> >> >Quite possibly. :-) > > >>It seems odd that the XMPP message stanza used here has no obvious >>identification as a notification >> >> >Typically, notifications in XMPP are sent using type='headline' >(indicating that no response is expected). > > >>specifically, XMPP, being XML based, >>could hold (for instance) an OMA EMN, or some other XML element which >>indicated that it was a notification, and ideally provided some >>identification of what the account involved was. >> >> >Something like the following? > >imap:user@host > > IMAP-like URL imap://user@host ? >>Personally, I'd be happiest with a URI to the new message, where >>possible, but i appreciate there's security concerns there. >> >> >What form would such a URI take? > > Can be an IMAP (draft-ietf-lemonade-rfc2192bis-02.txt) or HTTP URL. >IMHO the account and message identification considerations belong in >draft-ietf-sieve-notify rather than in the XMPP "profile" thereof (which >would simply provide an instantiation of those considerations). > > Maybe you are right, but I don't think that draft-ietf-sieve-notify can prescribe any particular URI type, because this would vary from one deployment/implementation to another. >>If such an XML element were to be put in place, I'd find it nicer it it >>contained the urgency as a normal XML attribute, rather than SHIM. I >>just don't like SHIM. >> >> >I would not have deep objections to coming up with a more XML-ish format >(XMPP extension) for urgency. > >
- I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt Internet-Drafts
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt Dave Cridland
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt Alexey Melnikov
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt Dave Cridland
- Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-00.txt Peter Saint-Andre