RE: [Simple] Review of draft-garcia-simple-presence-dictionary-04.txt
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Hi Miguel, I have also reviewed the document. Regarding Avshalom's comment, I think the draft in its current form provides a good catch of nowadays PIDF and its extensions. Future extensions may be minor or proprietary, so I personally don't see a need to introduce versioning and its client-server negotiation. Certainly this document has to wait until all dependencies reach stability. Some further minor comments as follow: Section 1: change: "The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) [4] is extended by the SIP-events framework [5] to provide, e.g., subscriptions and notifications to presence information. The presence information is typically carried in Extensible Markup Language (XML) [22] documents that are compliant with a given XML schema [23]. For example, the Presence Information Data Format (PIDF) [8] defines the format for the basic document that supplies presence information. " with: "The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) [4] is extended by the SIP-events framework [5] to provide subscriptions and notifications of events. One example of such event notification mechanism is presence. The presence information is typically carried in Extensible Markup Language (XML) [22] documents that are compliant with a given XML schema [23]. The Presence Information Data Format (PIDF) [8] defines the format for the basic document that supplies presence information." Section 1: "Typically, PIDF is used in combination with other extensions to provide a richer user experience, among others: the Presence Data Model [10], Rich Presence Extensions to PIDF (RPID) [11], Contact Information in PIDF (CIPID) [12], or Timed Presence Extensions to PIDF [13]." I would remove reference [13] from here and add at least [19] and [20] (considering what the "typical" extensions are enhancing user experience...) Section 1: "Sigcomp endpoints will initially announce the availability of one or both dictionaries until the other end acknowledges that it has received the announcement." Do sigcomp endpoints really announce the availability of RFC3485 dictionary? According to RFC 3485: "The static dictionary is unique and MUST be available in all SigComp implementations for SIP/SDP" Appendix A (and Section 4 accordingly): - timestamp could be upgraded to priority 1, - "close" should be "closed" - "deviceId"should be "deviceID" - "country" seems to be missing from PIDF-LO [16] - "version=" is also included in winfo [17] (reference is missing) Cheers, Krisztian ________________________________ From: ext Avshalom Houri [mailto:AVSHALOM@il.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:17 AM To: simple@ietf.org; Garcia Miguel (NSN - FI/Helsinki) Subject: [Simple] Review of draft-garcia-simple-presence-dictionary-04.txt I have reviewed the document and I think that it is a good suggestion and will help in reducing the amount of traffic for presence document. We may need to have a mechanism for enabling versioning or more flexible way to decide on dictionaries. Unlike SIP and SDP headers which are more or less stable, in presence things change all the time and there will be new schemas that will require new and/or updated dictionaries. There should be a way to associate a dictionary with a schema and/or a way that a client and a server will agree on a version of the dictionary. One typo in section 1. resources are scare (e.g., such as low bandwidth links with high >> scare -> scarce --Avshalom
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- [Simple] Review of draft-garcia-simple-presence-d… Avshalom Houri
- Re: [Simple] Review of draft-garcia-simple-presen… Miguel Garcia
- RE: [Simple] Review of draft-garcia-simple-presen… krisztian.kiss
- Re: [Simple] Review of draft-garcia-simple-presen… Miguel Garcia