RE: [Simple] RE: [Sipping] RE: text/T140 and audio/t140 was:[avt]Comments/questions on draft-ietf-avt-rfc2793bis-04

"Gregg Vanderheiden" <gv@trace.wisc.edu> Thu, 01 July 2004 15:14 UTC

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Subject: RE: [Simple] RE: [Sipping] RE: text/T140 and audio/t140 was:[avt]Comments/questions on draft-ietf-avt-rfc2793bis-04
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Forgot one

On number 1 - it should also read...  "And for those who are deaf but can
speak, the keypad is not needed for character entry except on rare occasion.
They just need to be able to see the text displayed on the screen and can
speak in response."    I added it below.

 
Gregg

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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 


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From: Gregg Vanderheiden [mailto:gv@trace.wisc.edu] 
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Subject: RE: [Simple] RE: [Sipping] RE: text/T140 and audio/t140
was:[avt]Comments/questions on draft-ietf-avt-rfc2793bis-04

Hi all

A sixpack of quick comments. 

1 - if you don't have anything else, a phone keypad for text entry and even
a 12 character display is wonderful.   The alternative is nothing.   (And
for those who are deaf but can speak, the keypad is not needed for character
entry except on rare occasion.  They just need to be able to see the text
displayed on the screen and can speak in response.)

2 - if possible, any type or size of keyboard with one key per character is
better easier simpler faster.

3 - real time text (rather than messages) is much better for conversations. 

4 - even 5 second message delay breaks all of our conversational protocols
and expectations and leads to interruptions, misinterpretations of intent
etc -- especially if one of the communicators is used to speech.  Delays
beyond this are another form of communication (messaging) which is not bad
it just is not conversation.   It is definitely communication, interaction,
a lot of things.  But it differs from conversation as we know it. 

5 - it would be great to have bridges between messaging and conversation
technologies to use when conversation technologies are not possible or
available for some reason. 

6 - messaging is preferred by some and for some situations.  It is not
inferior - it is just different.  It will be better at some tasks and worse
at others. 


 
Gregg

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Gregg C Vanderheiden Ph.D. 
Professor - Ind. Engr. & BioMed Engr.
Director - Trace R & D Center 
University of Wisconsin-Madison 


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