Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dialog usage?
Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com> Thu, 31 May 2007 16:05 UTC
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From: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>
Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dialog usage?
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 11:05:23 -0500
To: Nina Garaca <nina.garaca@zesium.com>
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On May 31, 2007, at 4:19 AM, Nina Garaca wrote: > Hi all, > > I have read rfc2976 - The SIP INFO Method, but I haven't really > understood that INFO message belongs only to INVITE dialog usage, > which however draft-ietf-sipping-dialogusage-04 claims in its part > 5.3: > > > 5.3. Matching requests to usages > > > > For many mid-dialog requests, identifying the usage they belong > to is > obvious. A dialog can have at most one invite usage, so any INVITE, > UPDATE, PRACK, ACK, CANCEL, BYE, or INFO requests belong to it. > > So my, question is: > Can INFO message belong to other usages, besides INVITE, such > are SUBSCRIBE or REFER? > There was IIRC no intent in the writing of RFC 2976 to restrict INFO to occurring within an INVITE dialog usage. So it could technically be used outside of one, including in non-dialog cases. However, RFC 2976 is considered to be somewhat underspecified, and so far the only place we've further specified its usage is in the context of transporting binary data for telephony protocol tunelling. We have a standing consensus to NOT use it for arbitrary data at this time. If we were to start using it, we'd need to do something like the event-packages model for INFO. So don't use it, and you won't have to deal with this . . . -- Dean _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dialog … Nina Garaca
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dale.Worley
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Spencer Dawkins
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Steve Langstaff
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Robert Sparks
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Diego B
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Rafferty, James
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Diego B
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dale Worley
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Elwell, John
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dale.Worley
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Gilad Shaham
- Re: [Sip] INFO message belongs only to INVITE dia… Dean Willis