RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP in 2xx
"Bert Culpepper" <bert.culpepper@intervoice-brite.com> Fri, 07 September 2001 21:40 UTC
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From: Bert Culpepper <bert.culpepper@intervoice-brite.com>
To: 'Jonathan Rosenberg' <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com>, brett@broadsoft.com
Cc: sip@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP in 2xx
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 17:25:14 -0400
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My comments below... > -----Original Message----- > From: sip-admin@ietf.org [mailto:sip-admin@ietf.org]On Behalf Of > Jonathan Rosenberg > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:56 PM > To: 'brett@broadsoft.com'; Jonathan Rosenberg > Cc: sip@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP in 2xx > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brett Tate [mailto:brett@broadsoft.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:10 PM > > To: 'Jonathan Rosenberg' > > Cc: sip@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP in 2xx > > > > > > Sounds fine with me. However I guess that the > > "MUST" will have implications for devices that > > can't or don't distinguish between INVITE and > > re-INVITE after having underwent a restart. > > I had forgotten about this case. Good observation. > > > I guess that these UA's would have to persist > > parts of the SDP if they wish to allow a > > re-INVITE without SDP to re-establish a call > > (which I don't recommend). > > I agree that thats ugly. > > I suppose that we could say that its a MUST to use the > existing SDP if you > know it. A UA that sends a re-INVITE w/o SDP MUST be prepared > for SDP that > may be different for the reason you describe. Hopefully its something > acceptable. If its not, BYE the call. I don't think we can > reasonably do > better. We're already talking about the case where the UA has > failed and > recovered. > > Sound OK? > Yes. IMO, in the case a UA has failed and recovered it's reasonable to expect problems in sessions that involve "complicated" media negotiation. In more common cases, session re-establishment should work fine. Regards, Bert > -Jonathan R. > > > > --- > Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 72 Eagle Rock Ave. > Chief Scientist First Floor > dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 > jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 > http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 > http://www.dynamicsoft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP in 2xx Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Vijay Gurbani
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Kim Liu
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Bert Culpepper
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Bert Culpepper
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Bert Culpepper
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… stoshniwal
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… stoshniwal
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… stoshniwal
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Chris Hogg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… stoshniwal
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Chris Hogg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Juan-Carlos.Rojas
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Victor Paulsamy
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Victor Paulsamy
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Victor Paulsamy
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Chris Hogg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Chris Hogg
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Victor Paulsamy
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Victor Paulsamy
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Brett Tate
- Re: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call SDP i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call S… Kiranmai Pavoori
- RE: RE: [Sip] Open Issue #58: Rejected mid-call S… Chris Hogg