RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in RPH - not a good fit for ets and wps
"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Mon, 08 November 2004 21:01 UTC
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Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:35:58 -0600
To: Janet P Gunn <jgunn6@csc.com>
From: "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in RPH - not a good fit for ets and wps
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comments below At 12:51 PM 11/8/2004 -0500, Janet P Gunn wrote: >James said >--- > > > 2 SIP element ignores a namespace it does not recognize (loose) > >To this, remember the ID does not say to "fail" the call, just that >Request. This is one way to inform the calling UAC to know it included a >namespace or priority value that was not recognizable (meaning not >ets.0/1/2/3/4 or wps.0/1/2/3/4). > >There is no way to inform the UAC of this issue within the SIP Request >(with the bad namespace.priority-value) without failing the request. >Meaning, there can be no preferential treatment without the sending element > >being told so. SIP doesn't have a "pass, but this wasn't a good choice" >provisional response like other protocols. > >To the user, they might not notice several SIP Request failures, the person > >is merely waiting for the call to be set up (still under a second). >--- >OK, please educate me. > >If it "fails" that request, but doesn't "fail" the call, does that mean >that the UAC resends the request without the RPH? yep >If that is what it means, then, for a call which originates in a SIP/IP >domain, but goes to the PSTN, it would reach the PSTN gateway with no >indication that it was entitled to special treatment in the PSTN. > >While that is better than failing the call, it still isn't the desired >behavior. SIP has no mechanism other than failing the request to indicate something was wrong. SIP cannot at this time, allow a message to be processed by a SIP element (say a proxy) and have that proxy server send the packet towards the UAS *and* send some form of a provisional reply to the UAC telling it to correct some aspect of itself in future such messages. >If there is a way that the SIP element can "fail the request but not the >call", AND make sure that the appropriate RPH namespace and value (and >authentication) get to the PSTN gateway, then it might be OK. A proxy can replace the field in a header, in this case to a more appropriate namespace.value - but I do not believe you will want this to happen without authentication of the user at the UAC (which would be in the form of a 4XX failure - which you are objecting to.... hmmmm) >Janet > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please >delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in >delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to >bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written >agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail >for such purpose. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cheers, James ******************* Truth is not to be argued... it is to be presented _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in RPH -… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Ken Carlberg
- Re: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Ken Carlberg
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… James M. Polk
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… James M. Polk
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… Janet P Gunn
- RE: [Sip] Strict, Semi-Strict and Loose mode in R… James M. Polk