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Re: [sipcore] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21: (with COMMENT) - the registration issue

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Fri, 11 January 2019 10:16 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Mirja Kühlewind <ietf@kuehlewind.net>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21: (with COMMENT) - the registration issue
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Hi,

I realized I forgot to address Mirja's comment regarding the registration earlier. Sorry for that.

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COMMENT:
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>One question on the new PNS registry:
>I don't quite understand why the policy is "Specification Required". I guess
>you need some description of the values for pn-provider, pn-param and pn-prid.
>However, you could just add these fields to the registry directly (with the
>option to just provide a reference in at least the param and prid fields if the
>description is rather extensive). However, for e.g. RFC8030 is would easily be
>possible to describe everyhing you need within the registry. For apns and fcm
>you can simply add a pointer to this new RFC if you think the description is
>too long to be included in the registry directly. But this could make
>registration for new simple services easier.

I doubt it is enough to figure out how to use a PNS just by looking at the format of the pn- parameter values - and that includes RFC8030. You will need a specification that defines the actual procedures.

Regards,

Christer

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