Re: [sipcore] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) - the COMMENT issues

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-push-21: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) - the COMMENT issues
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Hi,

...

>> Section 4.1 contains the following:
>> 
>>   "NOTE: If the SIP UA application wants to use push notifications for
>>   other purposes than to trigger binding-refresh requests, it needs to
>>   be able to distinguish between the different purposes when receiving
>>   push notifications.  Mechanisms for doing that are outside the scope
>>   of this specification.”
>
> Ah, right. It might be worth adding something to the effect of “If a different 
> push notification application is defined in the future, its specification will need 
> to define how to do so.” before the last sentence.

I can do that.

Regards,

Christer