[sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed with the essential corrections to RFC 3261
Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> Thu, 25 June 2009 06:12 UTC
Return-Path: <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>
X-Original-To: sipcore@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sipcore@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A01D3A68A1 for <sipcore@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:12:23 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.249
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eYahk55Rc9h3 for <sipcore@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mailgw3.ericsson.se (mailgw3.ericsson.se [193.180.251.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D479B3A67A1 for <sipcore@ietf.org>; Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-AuditID: c1b4fb3c-b7bdcae0000052f9-34-4a43115dc071
Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw3.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 7B.C4.21241.D51134A4; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:55:41 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.175]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:55:40 +0200
Received: from mail.lmf.ericsson.se ([131.160.11.50]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:55:40 +0200
Received: from [131.160.126.143] (rvi2-126-143.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.126.143]) by mail.lmf.ericsson.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB34245E; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:55:40 +0300 (EEST)
Message-ID: <4A43115C.7040902@ericsson.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:55:40 +0300
From: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: SIPCORE <sipcore@ietf.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2009 05:55:40.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[91EAFA00:01C9F559]
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA==
Subject: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed with the essential corrections to RFC 3261
X-BeenThere: sipcore@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: SIP Core Working Group <sipcore.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore>, <mailto:sipcore-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/sipcore>
List-Post: <mailto:sipcore@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sipcore-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore>, <mailto:sipcore-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:12:23 -0000
Folks, as you can see in our charter, we have the following milestone: Sep 2009 - Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch) to IESG (PS) The reason why the milestone talks about the "first batch" can be found in the following draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-drage-sip-essential-correction-03 The draft above talks about RFCs that are updated by tens of RFCs. The draft claims that having a lot of RFCs updating a given RFC would be confusing for implementers. At the time of writing the draft above, there was a belief that RFC 3261 was going to be an example of an RFC updated by tens of RFCs. The idea in the draft is that instead of issuing a number of RFCs updating the original one, the WG would put all those updates together into a batch and publish the batch as a single RFC. Analyzing the current situation, RFC 3261 has already been updated by the following RFCs: 3265, 3853, 4320, 4916, 5393 Additionally, there are a few drafts that will, if approved, update RFC 3261 as well: Draft already with the IESG: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-06 Draft that could be included in the essential corrections process when their contents are approved: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sip-ipv6-abnf-fix-03 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-sip-invfix-03 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-camarillo-sipping-reinvite-00 It turns out that the total number of RFCs updating RFC 3261 has not grown as much as expected. The number of RFCs documenting essential corrections (a subset of all the RFCs updating RFC 3261) is also lower than expected. (From Section 3 of the essential corrections draft, an essential change is one where in the absence of the correction, it will not be possible to implement the specification contained in the original RFC in a manner to ensure interoperability or correct operation.) The general decision we have to make at this point, given the small number of drafts documenting essential corrections, is whether we want to document essential corrections in batches, per the essential corrections process, or in individual drafts, as it has been done in the past. The concrete decision we have to make is whether it makes sense to merge the following drafts in a batch, per the essential corrections process, or whether we advance these drafts independently. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sip-ipv6-abnf-fix-03 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sparks-sip-invfix-03 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-camarillo-sipping-reinvite-00 We would appreciate the feedback of the WG on this issue so that we can make progress updating RFC 3261. Thanks, Gonzalo SIPCORE co-chair
- Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed w… Vijay K. Gurbani
- [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed with … Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed w… Elwell, John
- Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed w… gao.yang2
- Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed w… gao.yang2
- [sipcore] [Fwd: Re: Re: Input requested on how to… Adam Roach
- Re: [sipcore] Input requested on how to proceed w… Gonzalo Camarillo