Re: [Sipping] SIP Device Configuration and RESCAP
Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Tue, 26 March 2002 14:04 UTC
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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
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I don't think this applies. RESCAP (assuming it will ever reach take-off velocity) allows random strangers to discover the capabilities of a device; device configuration allows one device to find its own configuration information. The security model is exactly the opposite. RESCAP fits the model to the extent that any RPC-like mechanism would. Yes, RESCAP is yet another IETF attempt to create a specialized version of RPC (defined here as retrieval of structured data from a known location). If you take the RPC viewpoint, the protocol solution to the problem is rather easy, reduced to defining a set of data structures in whatever RPC environment one would like to play in. Fortunately or unfortunately, SNMP is also an RPC-like protocol, albeit typically going in the wrong direction (from management station to the device, rather than the other way around). Richard Shockey wrote: > > I know this was a rather contentious issue at the 2nd SIPPING meeting but > I'd like this group to at least be aware of some similar work that we have > tried for years to move on in the IETF and I like to take this opportunity > to add the pointers to the current RESCAP work. > > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/rescap-charter.html > > A cursory overview of the RESCAP charter should identify similarities > between the Petrie SIP Device Configuration draft and the general problem > statement. RESCAP originally looked at the problem of identifying the > capabilities of a POP3 or IMAP end points by an SMTP client. Unified > Messaging and other technologies essentially have to "send and pray" that > the end point recipient user agent was capable of processing the > attachments. The desire was to avoid circumstances where one would send PPT > files to a hand held cellphone etc...hense the need for a combination of > technologies that could, discover a configuration file or capabilities > "object" of the terminating email endpoint. Upon discovery of the end point > capabilities, the message object could be re configured or rejected by the > originating client as appropriate. > > Its rather easy to see how RESCAP concepts or a similar class of > technologies could be applied to the originating endpoint, in this case a > SIP Device. The data object (configuration file) could use a different form > of semantic than capabilities ..but the two could share many attributes > such as discovery and transport. > > I'm not suggesting this is the exact methodology SIPPING needs to look at, > however the general problem statement is one that is well known in the IETF > community. > > ############ > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Resource Capabilities Discovery Working > Group of the IETF. > > Title : RESCAP Scenarios > Author(s) : G. Klyne > Filename : draft-ietf-rescap-scenarios-01.txt > Pages : 18 > Date : 11-Jan-02 > > This memo explores some scenarios for the resource capabaility > discovery protocol (RESCAP). It is intended to provide some > grounding in specific use-cases for decisions about RESCAP goals > and design. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rescap-scenarios-01.txt > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Resource Capabilities Discovery Working > Group of the IETF. > > Title : The Binary Low-Overhead Block Presentation Protocol > Author(s) : K. Moore > Filename : draft-ietf-rescap-blob-01.txt > Pages : 22 > Date : 05-Mar-02 > > This memo describes the Binary Low-Overhead Block (BLOB) protocol for > on-the-wire presentation of data in the context of higher-level > protocols. BLOB is designed to encode and decode data with low overhead > on most CPUs, to be reasonably space-efficient, and for its > representation to be sufficiently precise that it is suitable as a > canonical format for digital signatures > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rescap-blob-01.txt > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Resource Capabilities Discovery Working > Group of the IETF. > > Title : The Resource Catalog > Author(s) : K. Moore > Filename : draft-ietf-rescap-rc-01.txt > Pages : 34 > Date : 05-Mar-02 > > This memo describes version 3 of the Resource Catalog. The Resource > Catalog (RC) is a service for storing and obtaining metadata that > describes network-accessible resources. This service is primarily > intended for use by clients prior to accessing, or attempting to access, > a particular resource. The RC service may thus be used (for example) to > inform a client as to which of a variety of features are supported by > the resource, or which methods may be used to access the resource, or > which of a small set of locations may be used to access the resource. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-rescap-rc-01.txt > _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] SIP Device Configuration and RESCAP Richard Shockey
- Re: [Sipping] SIP Device Configuration and RESCAP Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sipping] SIP Device Configuration and RESCAP Blatherwick, Peter