Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Tue, 24 February 2004 16:30 UTC

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To: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>
CC: sipping <sipping@ietf.org>, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>, bstucker@nortelnetworks.com
Subject: Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP
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Does this really work for us?

It sounds like it only works for *hosts*. That doesn't sound like it 
covers the case of a UA (e.g. softphone) that may move from host to host 
while retaining its identity. Nor does it seem to cover the case of 
multiple UAs that share a host.

	Paul

Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> the following two drafts describe how to indentify a particular UA using 
> globally unique identifiers:
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stucker-sip-guid-00.txt
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jennings-sipping-instance-id-00.txt 
> 
> 
> Cullen pointed out that this work may be able to take advantage of the 
> work carried out in the HIP (Host Identity Protocol) WG, which 
> supplemental web page is:
> 
> http://hip.piuha.net/
> 
> Here you have a *very* brief introduction to HIP. I will also be 
> providing a brief introduction to the drafts above to the HIP community. 
> Hopefully, we will have a useful exchange of ideas between both WGs.
> 
> HIP consists of a layer between the network and the tranport layers 
> (e.g., between IP and TCP). It uses HIs (Host Identifiers) to identify 
> hosts. The idea is that, when a host changes its IP address, it keeps 
> its HI. This facilitates mobility, for instance.
> 
> HIs (Host Identifiers) are public keys, which may have different lengths 
> and formats. To resolve this, HIP defines the HITs (Host Identity Tags), 
> which are hashes of the HI. That is, a HIT is a hash of a public key. 
> They are 128 bit long, and can be used instead of IPv6 addresses in 
> socket calls. HIP also defines LSIs (Local Scope Indetifiers), that are 
> 32 bit long and can be used instead of IPv4 addresses in socket calls.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
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