Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com> Wed, 25 February 2004 20:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP
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Thanks for the brief intro, Gonzalo. I need to read more on HIP and its on my now-very-length reading list for the plane. Let me anyway ask the main question I have not understood, which is how address resolution is done. So, lets say I want to send a message to a host, and I have obtained its HIT somehow. Presumably I need to translate that to the IP for the host. How is that done? If its DNS, then what is the difference between HIP and just using dynamic DNS and assigning a hostname to each host? Or, is the proposal that a HIT is an address, not a name, in which case routes to it are injected into the IP routing infrastructure. I hope, and assume, that this is not the case, since thats equivalent to a host route for every host on the Internet... egads! -Jonathan R. Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Folks, > > the following two drafts describe how to indentify a particular UA using > globally unique identifiers: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stucker-sip-guid-00.txt > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jennings-sipping-instance-id-00.txt > > > Cullen pointed out that this work may be able to take advantage of the > work carried out in the HIP (Host Identity Protocol) WG, which > supplemental web page is: > > http://hip.piuha.net/ > > Here you have a *very* brief introduction to HIP. I will also be > providing a brief introduction to the drafts above to the HIP community. > Hopefully, we will have a useful exchange of ideas between both WGs. > > HIP consists of a layer between the network and the tranport layers > (e.g., between IP and TCP). It uses HIs (Host Identifiers) to identify > hosts. The idea is that, when a host changes its IP address, it keeps > its HI. This facilitates mobility, for instance. > > HIs (Host Identifiers) are public keys, which may have different lengths > and formats. To resolve this, HIP defines the HITs (Host Identity Tags), > which are hashes of the HI. That is, a HIT is a hash of a public key. > They are 128 bit long, and can be used instead of IPv6 addresses in > socket calls. HIP also defines LSIs (Local Scope Indetifiers), that are > 32 bit long and can be used instead of IPv4 addresses in socket calls. > > Regards, > > Gonzalo > > > This communication is confidential and intended solely for the > addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution > is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in > error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and > delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. > > E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, > interruption, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only > send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any > such corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any > consequences thereof. > > > _______________________________________________ > Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Chief Technology Officer Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 dynamicsoft jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
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- Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Brian Stucker
- Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Stephen James
- Re: [Sipping] UA indentification and HIP Gonzalo Camarillo