Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs
Alan Johnston <alan.johnston@mci.com> Tue, 24 February 2004 14:49 UTC
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 08:14:33 -0600
From: Alan Johnston <alan.johnston@mci.com>
Subject: Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs
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At 02:06 PM 2/24/2004 +0200, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: >Hello, > >some comments on the following draft: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-cc-conferencing-03.txt > >The focus of a conference returns the conference URI in the contact header >field of the 200 OK for the INVITE. The UAC uses this URI to SUBSCRIBE to >the conf package (using a new dialog)... > >Why are we forcing the focus to use the same URI for receiving the INVITEs >from all the users and for receiving the SUBSCRIBEs? I believe the >solution would be cleaner if we defined a new header field (e.g., >Associated-Conf-State) that carried a globally routable URI. The 200 OK >for the initial INVITE (or the INVITE in a dial-out case) would carry this >header field. This would keep separate the URI used for joining the >conference and the URI used for subscribing to the state of the conference. Gonzalo, This is a fundamental design decision made in SIP conferencing nearly two years ago, and I believe it is a good one. A requirement for conferencing is that a UA must be able to find out information about a conference (by subscribing to the conference package, for example) by only knowing the conference URI. Why is this very useful property a problem? >This is actually the approach that the draft below follows: >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-camarillo-sipping-transac-package-00.txt > >We define the Associated-Transactions-State to be returned, for example, >in the 200 OK of a MESSAGE sent to an exploder. Note that we had to create >this new header because MESSAGE does not carry a Contact header... >following the same approach in both, the conferencing work and the >exploders work would be good, in my opinion. With all due respect, the exploders work should follow the approaches described in the conferencing work. Note that the exploders work should not also contradict the XCON work in related areas, as well... Thanks, Alan Johnston MCI sip:alan@sipstation.com >Comments? > >Thanks, > >Gonzalo > > >This communication is confidential and intended solely for the >addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, >please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete the >message without disclosing it. Thank you. > >E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, >interruption, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only >send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any such >corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any >consequences thereof. > > >_______________________________________________ >Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping >This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP >Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip >Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- [Sipping] RE: Conferencing for UAs Miguel.An.Garcia
- [Sipping] Re: Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Chris Boulton
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs hisham.khartabil
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Alan Johnston
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Alan Johnston
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Paul Kyzivat
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Miguel.An.Garcia
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Miguel.An.Garcia
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Alan Johnston
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Re: Conferencing for UAs Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Alan Johnston
- RE: [Sipping] Re: Conferencing for UAs Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Alan Johnston
- Re: [Sipping] Re: Conferencing for UAs Niemi Aki (Nokia-M/Espoo)
- Re: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Miguel Garcia
- RE: [Sipping] Conferencing for UAs Markus.Isomaki