[Sipping] Comments on draft-ietf-sip-cc-transfer-05
"Elwell, John" <John.Elwell@siemenscomms.co.uk> Thu, 10 January 2002 12:39 UTC
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From: "Elwell, John" <John.Elwell@siemenscomms.co.uk>
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Subject: [Sipping] Comments on draft-ietf-sip-cc-transfer-05
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Robert, 1. I understand this document is in WG last call. However, there is a dependency on the Replaces header, which appears to have expired. In my opinion the Replaces header is an essential part of transfer, as a means of avoiding getting 486 Busy Here in response to an INVITE to an agent that does not have call waiting or equivalent. In particular, this is likely to arise when the destination of the INVITE is in a legacy network. The Replaces header would provide a means for the call agent acting as gateway to the legacy network to associate the INVITE with the original call, thereby avoiding establishing a second call through the legacy network with a fair chance of encountering a busy destination. Also there could be charging implications, particularly in the case where the INVITE is sent from the transfer target to the transferee - the transfer target could end up paying for a call that was originally being paid for by the transferee. Therefore what steps are being taken to formalise the Replaces header? 2. In section 4, item 2, it says "The Transferor and the Transferee must not be removed from a session as part of a transfer transaction." It might be better to say "....until the conclusion of a transfer transaction". In fact the examples all seem to show the clearing down of the original session on conclusion of transfer. 3. In 7.2, it should be noted that the transferee call agent may respond to the INVITE from the transfer target with 486 Busy Here unless it has a means to accept a second call (e.g., call waiting). Similarly in some of the later diagrams. 4. In 7.4, 2nd sentence, there appears to be an erroneous reference to 4.5.1. Regards, John -------------------------------------------------------------- John Elwell (john.elwell@siemenscomms.co.uk) Siemens Communications Limited, Technology Drive, Beeston, Nottingham NG9 1LA, UK Tel: +44 115 943 4989 Fax: +44 115 943 4969 -------------------------------------------------------------- Internet communications are not secure and therefore Siemens Communications Limited does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Siemens Communications Limited unless otherwise specifically stated. _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list http://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Comments on draft-ietf-sip-cc-transfer-… Elwell, John
- [Sipping] RE: Comments on draft-ietf-sip-cc-trans… Robert Sparks
- [Sipping] RE: Comments on draft-ietf-sip-cc-trans… Rohan Mahy
- Re: [Sipping] RE: Comments on draft-ietf-sip-cc-t… Dean Willis