Re: [siprec] FW:I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-session-recording-arch-01.txt
Leon Portman <Leon.Portman@nice.com> Tue, 22 June 2010 06:41 UTC
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Henry, Hi Please see below my comments Leon -----Original Message----- From: siprec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:siprec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henry Lum Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:27 AM To: siprec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [siprec] FW:I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-session-recording-arch-01.txt I have a few comments and questions: Section 4.1.1 - in figure 1, when B2BUA is used, are there two communication sessions as drawn in the diagram or just one communication session? From the definition in the requirements document, it looks like there are two communication sessions since a communication session refers to one SIP session. [LeonP] Actually it is an open item that I mention for multi-party recording via conference server, where we are recording one communication session that actually represented by multiple SIP sessions. Section 4.1.3 - in figure 3, should the media server be drawn within the border of the SRS? This looks to me that this is a different architecture than the one introduced in figure 2. [LeonP] Yes, media server is part of SRS. There is also another configuration, where MedaCTRL and media server are used for SRC implementation. Section 4.2.2 - an open issue for me is when the SRC is a SIP B2BUA as described in section 4.1.1. If the SRS uses a mechanism like Join header to identify a particular session to be recorded, then the SRS is only recording the call from the viewpoint of one of the endpoint. For example, if SRS asks for recording on the communication session on UA-A (as in figure 1), then will the recording follow UA-A even when UA-A may not be talking to UA-B anymore? I see that there are two types of mechanism for SRS-initiated recording, one for 1pcc and the other for 3pcc. [LeonP] I agree that we need to use some universal call-id parameter for communication session identification. So we need to have ability to identify specific participant (like record UA-A) or specific communication session (record call-id) Section 4.2.5 - the wording here sounds like whenever there is a mismatch in codecs the SRC is responsible for performing the transcoding. Is that the intention to use a transcoder (RFC5369) first before doing transcoding on the SRC? [LeonP] I think, the preference should be transcoding on SRC side Section 4.3.1 - 4.3.2 mentions the use of XML schema for the metadata content. This section should make it clear that an XML schema for the metadata content should be used. Section 4.5 - A recording aware UA should be able to indicate the recording preference in the INVITE response (ie. 200 OK) as well when it is acting as the UAS receiving a call. [LeonP] Agree Regards, Henry -----Original Message----- From: siprec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:siprec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hutton, Andrew Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:03 PM To: siprec@ietf.org Subject: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-session-recording-arch-01.txt From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org Sent: 18 June 2010 17:30 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-session-recording-arch-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : An Architecture for Media Recording using the Session Initiation Protocol Author(s) : A. Hutton, et al. Filename : draft-hutton-siprec-session-recording-arch-01.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2010-06-18 Session recording is a critical requirement in many communications environments such as call centers and financial trading. In some of these environments, all calls must be recorded for regulatory, compliance, and consumer protection reasons. Recording of a session is typically performed by sending a copy of a media stream to a recording device. This document describes architectures for deploying session recording solutions in an environment which is based on the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP). 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- [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-sessi… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [siprec] FW:I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-ses… Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] FW:I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-ses… Leon Portman
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Deepanshu Gautam
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Deepanshu Gautam
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Elwell, John
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Deepanshu Gautam
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-D Action:draft-hutton-siprec-s… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Henry Lum
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Peter Musgrave
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Deepanshu Gautam
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Deepanshu Gautam
- Re: [siprec] FW: I-DAction:draft-hutton-siprec-se… Hutton, Andrew