Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line in draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Mon, 29 May 2017 23:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line in draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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I uploaded version -10, which includes the syntax change to single line, along with a few editorial clarifications. (Version -09 accidently omitted an editorial clarification.) You can see a diff of the changes from 08 to 10 here: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-08&url2=draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language-10 If there objections to the change from multi-line to single-line, this can be reverted. --Randy At 2:57 PM -0700 5/28/17, Randall Gellens wrote: > In response to Adam Roach's comments as well as other comments, I > intend to update the draft to collapse the attribute syntax to one > line; each attribute can occur at most once per media, with all > languages on the same line. This will further reduce the size of > the SDP block. > > If you object to this, please reply. > > Here is the section of Adam's review: > > At 8:31 PM +0000 3/28/17, Sabrina Tanamal via RT wrote: >> I'll note that much of this can be fixed if the syntax is collapsed so >> that each media section can have at most one hlang-send and one >> hlang-receive, each of which contain a list of one or more languages >> that can be sent or received. This is also much more consistent with the >> way SDP attributes are used in general. The presence of a "*" token on >> that line would indicate the "call should happen even without matching >> languages" characteristic; since there is only one place to add this >> indicator, the ambiguity of some lines indicating it and others not >> disappears. The preceding example would collapse to: >> >> m=audio 49250 RTP/AVP 20 >> a=hlang-send:es eu en * >> a=hlang-recv:es eu en * >> >> ...and the example text would be revised to remove the implication that >> *sending* "es" necessarily implies *receiving* "es". >> >> I'll further note that the majority of SDP libraries I've worked with >> would make accessing the all-on-one-line format easier than >> one-line-per-language as well. > > Here is the proposed ABNF: > > Attribute Syntax: > > hlang-value = Language-Tag *( SP Language-tag ) [ SP asterisk ] > > ; Language-Tag as defined in BCP 47 > > asterisk = "*" ; an asterisk (ASCII %2A) character > > sp = 1*" " ; one or more ASCII space (%20) characters > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > If forced to travel on an airplane, try and get in the cabin with > the Captain, so you can keep an eye on him and nudge him if he > falls asleep or point out any mountains looming up ahead ... > --Mike Harding, The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac. > > _______________________________________________ > SLIM mailing list > SLIM@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/slim -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Knowledge always desires increase; it is like fire, which must first be kindled by some external agent, but which will afterwards propagate itself. --Dr. Samuel Johnson
- [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line in d… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Natasha Rooney
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Brian Rosen
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-lang… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-lang… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Adam Roach
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Gunnar Hellström
- Re: [Slim] draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-lang… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] Collapse attribute syntax to one line … Randall Gellens
- Re: [Slim] draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-lang… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Slim] draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-lang… Randall Gellens