Re: [Softwires] Softwire interim meeting preliminary agenda

Alain Durand <adurand@juniper.net> Fri, 23 September 2011 05:00 UTC

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Ok, please send slides before Sunday night.

Alain

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On Sep 22, 2011, at 6:03 PM, "Hui Deng" <denghui02@gmail.com<mailto:denghui02@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear Chairs,

As one people who has been working on the comparision between encapsulation and translation for some time.
I would like to request a time slot to present our analysis.

Thanks for your consideration

-Hui

2011/9/8 Alain Durand <<mailto:adurand@juniper.net>adurand@juniper.net<mailto:adurand@juniper.net>>
Softwire interim meeting preliminary agenda @ Beijing, 2011/09/26-27

Participants are expected to have read all the drafts that will be discussed

Day 1: Sept. 26th
1) Intro, logistic
  taxonomy, problem space:  (stateful/stateless, translation/tunneling, etc. …)
  Starting point: operator-driven Stateless motivation draft and the 4-quadrant discussion at Quebec IETF
  Goal: have a common terminology
  30min to 1h

2) Deep dive
  Technical dive in all proposal as they stand today
  Goal: understand the various proposals according to the common terminology and how they fit in the problem space
  Goal2: Refine terminology/problem space as we go
  6 hours: time distributed among the requested presentations (see below for list of currently requested presentations)


Day 2: Sept. 27th
3) Divide & conquer: map technologies into problem space
  Goal: analyze overlaps & differences
  2 hours

4) Path forward
  Goal: evolution of technologies, integration with existing mechanism, gap analysis
  Goal: winnow down list of candidates

  5 hours


5) Invited talks by the operators (optionally, maybe during dinner/lunch)


Time slot requested (for session 2)
order and timing TBD
No.

Name

I-D

Scheduled


1.

X. Deng

1. Architectural considerations of Stateless A+P with a focus on SMAP
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04
2. DHCPv6 Options for Shared IP Addresses Solutions
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-dhcpv6-shared-address-option-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-dhcpv6-shared-address-option-00




2.

Peng Wu

DHCPv4 over IPv6
<http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cui-softwire-dhcp-over-tunnel/>http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cui-softwire-dhcp-over-tunnel/




3.

Naoki Matsuhira

Motivation for developing SA46T and SA46T-AS
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-motivation-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-motivation-00
SA46T & SA46T-AS technology dive
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-spec-02>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-spec-02
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-as-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-as-00





4.

Tetsuya Murakami

IPv4 Residual Deployment on IPv6 infrastructure - protocol specification
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00




5.

Jacni Qin

Stateless Address Mapping for IPv4 Residual Deployment (4rd)
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00




6.

Wojciech Dec

1. Stateless 4Via6 Address Sharing
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6
2. Stateless port mapping algorithms overview




7.

Qiong Sun

Lightweight 4over6
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-01>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-01




8.

Xing Li

1. dIVI-pd: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation with Prefix Delegation
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd/>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd/
2. dIVI: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation
<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi/>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi/




9.

Gang Chen

1. 4via6 Stateless Translation
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00
2. Prefix Delegation in 4V6
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chen-softwire-4v6-pd-00.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chen-softwire-4v6-pd-00.txt










Notes: the meeting will focus on stateful/stateless. We will not cover other topics such as MIBs/Multicast/6rd




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