Re: [Softwires] Softwire interim meeting preliminary agenda

[Wojciech Dec <[e-mail]>]

Hello Alain,

I have some concerns regarding the proposed agenda:  There appear to be two
major classes of topics to be discussed A) The translate/encap approaches B)
The details of indexing algorithms, mapping, etc. Item B) deals in very
specific technical details - many of which we likely will spend time
discussing well beyond this meeting.
In contrast item A) deals with a different breed and higher level technical
detail (translate, encap) and moreover a good deal of SP operational
considerations. Having the technical deep dive on day 1 seems to be ok for
B, but less so for arriving at understanding A). IMO we would be better
served by understanding the motivation behind the approaches, and then the
technical detail of each. To do that, we would need the agenda to reflect
the motivations and the technical detail separately.

Regards,
Woj.



On 8 September 2011 03:00, Alain Durand <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Softwire interim meeting preliminary agenda @ Beijing, 2011/09/26-27
>
> Participants are expected to have read all the drafts that will be
> discussed
>
> Day 1: Sept. 26th
> 1) Intro, logistic
>   taxonomy, problem space:  (stateful/stateless, translation/tunneling,
> etc. …)
>   Starting point: operator-driven Stateless motivation draft and the
> 4-quadrant discussion at Quebec IETF
>   Goal: have a common terminology
>   30min to 1h
>
> 2) Deep dive
>   Technical dive in all proposal as they stand today
>   Goal: understand the various proposals according to the common
> terminology and how they fit in the problem space
>   Goal2: Refine terminology/problem space as we go
>   6 hours: time distributed among the requested presentations (see below
> for list of currently requested presentations)
>
>
> Day 2: Sept. 27th
> 3) Divide & conquer: map technologies into problem space
>   Goal: analyze overlaps & differences
>   2 hours
>
> 4) Path forward
>   Goal: evolution of technologies, integration with existing mechanism, gap
> analysis
>   Goal: winnow down list of candidates
>
>   5 hours
>
>
> 5) Invited talks by the operators (optionally, maybe during dinner/lunch)
>
>
> Time slot requested (for session 2)
> order and timing TBD
> No.
>
> Name
>
> I-D
>
> Scheduled
>
>
> 1.
>
> X. Deng
>
> 1. Architectural considerations of Stateless A+P with a focus on SMAP
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-behave-ipv6-portrange-04
> 2. DHCPv6 Options for Shared IP Addresses Solutions
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-boucadair-dhcpv6-shared-address-option-00
>
>
>
>
> 2.
>
> Peng Wu
>
> DHCPv4 over IPv6
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cui-softwire-dhcp-over-tunnel/
>
>
>
>
> 3.
>
> Naoki Matsuhira
>
> Motivation for developing SA46T and SA46T-AS
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-motivation-00
> SA46T & SA46T-AS technology dive
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-spec-02
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsuhira-sa46t-as-00
>
>
>
>
>
> 4.
>
> Tetsuya Murakami
>
> IPv4 Residual Deployment on IPv6 infrastructure - protocol specification
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4rd-00
>
>
>
>
> 5.
>
> Jacni Qin
>
> Stateless Address Mapping for IPv4 Residual Deployment (4rd)
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-addmapping-00
>
>
>
>
> 6.
>
> Wojciech Dec
>
> 1. Stateless 4Via6 Address Sharing
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dec-stateless-4v6
> 2. Stateless port mapping algorithms overview
>
>
>
>
> 7.
>
> Qiong Sun
>
> Lightweight 4over6
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cui-softwire-b4-translated-ds-lite-01
>
>
>
>
> 8.
>
> Xing Li
>
> 1. dIVI-pd: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation with Prefix Delegation
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi-pd/
> 2. dIVI: Dual-Stateless IPv4/IPv6 Translation
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-xli-behave-divi/
>
>
>
>
> 9.
>
> Gang Chen
>
> 1. 4via6 Stateless Translation
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murakami-softwire-4v6-translation-00
> 2. Prefix Delegation in 4V6
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chen-softwire-4v6-pd-00.txt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Notes: the meeting will focus on stateful/stateless. We will not cover
> other topics such as MIBs/Multicast/6rd
>
>
>
>
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