Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite
Xing Li <xing@cernet.edu.cn> Fri, 22 November 2013 13:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite
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Wojciech Dec 写道: > > > > On 20 November 2013 20:54, Simon Perreault > <simon.perreault@viagenie.ca <mailto:simon.perreault@viagenie.ca>> wrote: > > WG, > > draft-ietf-softwire-map-08 contains this: > > 7.3. Backwards compatibility > > A MAP-E CE provisioned with only the IPv6 address of the BR, and with > no IPv4 address and port range configured by other means, MUST > disable its NAT44 functionality. This characteristic makes a MAP CE > compatible with DS-Lite [RFC6333] AFTRs, whose addresses are > configured as the MAP BR. > > In view of the recent discussions on provisioning, this > functionality strikes me as useless. There would be no reason for > an ISP to use such provisioning. A unified CPE would just do > DS-Lite if that's what's available. > > I suggest to remove that section. > > > You seem to equate ds-lite to being only there if it uses ds-lite > dhcpv6 extensions, which is not correct. > Consider the case where a MAP deployment has a need (for whatever > reason) to direct some CPEs to an AFTR (stateful NAT). Instead of > rolling out Ds-lite DHCP extensions all over, it is trivially simple > to achieve the desired effect with the above MAP CE behaviour in place. > This does not mean that those who want to use DS-lite dhcp extensions > cannot do so, if available. But it does mean that those who deploy > MAP, don't have to take care of mandating ds-lite dhcp extensions > "just in case" all over the shop. > As such, the functionality is IMO useful, and almost trivial to > achieve in an implementation. Agree with Woj and an exmaple is demostrated in Section 4.1 of http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-xli-softwire-map-testing-02.txt Regards, xing > > -Wojciech. > > > Simon > -- > DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org <mailto:Softwires@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Softwires mailing list > Softwires@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/softwires >
- [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Simon Perreault
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Xing Li
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Simon Perreault
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Ole Troan
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Simon Perreault
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Wojciech Dec
- Re: [Softwires] MAP compatibility with DS-Lite Wojciech Dec