Re: [lamps] PQC X.509 115 Hackathon

Kris Kwiatkowski <kris@amongbytes.com> Wed, 05 October 2022 14:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] PQC X.509 115 Hackathon
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Q1) This sounds interesting and if it is hapepns then I would
like to participate in person.

Q2) draft-ietf-lamps-kyber-certificates-00 if there is enough interest

On 05/10/2022 02:00, Mike Ounsworth wrote:
>
> Hi LAMPS and people interested in PQC!
>
> As suggested at 114, my colleague John Gray and I would like to do a 115 
> Hackathon on PQ keys and signatures in X.509 / PKIX.
>
> We are suggesting to play with Dilithium, Falcon, Sphincs+, and Composite 
> signing algorithms in Certs, CRLs, CSRs, PKCS#12s, CMS SignedData, maybe 
> OCSP Responses, maybe Timestamping, maybe CMP. We can bring: the Entrust 
> Toolkit (which we can hack at), Bounce Castle, OpenQuantumSafe-openssl, 
> OpenCA (easier if Max Pala is there, but we can probably figure out how to 
> build it).
>
> The point of the hackathon, I think, is going to be OIDs, and public key / 
> private key formats (ex.: the differences between Dilithium and Falcon 
> encodings in draft-uni-qsckeys, and draft-massimo-lamps-pq-sig-certificates).
>
> Question 1: are others interested in joining us at the hackathon? (no point 
> is signing up for a hackathon spot if we’re the only ones there)
>
> Question 2: whether or not you're joining, what PQ X.509 / PKIX things would 
> you like to see working with Dilithium, Falcon, Sphincs+, Composite?
>
> ---
> Mike Ounsworth
> Software Security Architect, Entrust
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