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Re: [lamps] [Ext] [Pqc] PQC X.509 115 Hackathon

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From: Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org>, Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] [Ext] [Pqc] PQC X.509 115 Hackathon
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Yes, I would like to participate, but my participation will be remote.

-Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman
> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 10:03 PM
> To: Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc: LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org>; pqc@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [lamps] [Ext] [Pqc] PQC X.509 115 Hackathon
> 
> On Oct 4, 2022, at 6:00 PM, Mike Ounsworth
> <Mike.Ounsworth=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi LAMPS and people interested in PQC!
> >
> > As suggested at 114, my colleague John Gray and I would like to do a 115
> Hackathon on PQ keys and signatures in X.509 / PKIX.
> >
> > We are suggesting to play with Dilithium, Falcon, Sphincs+, and Composite
> signing algorithms in Certs, CRLs, CSRs, PKCS#12s, CMS SignedData, maybe
> OCSP Responses, maybe Timestamping, maybe CMP. We can bring: the
> Entrust Toolkit (which we can hack at), Bounce Castle, OpenQuantumSafe-
> openssl, OpenCA (easier if Max Pala is there, but we can probably figure out
> how to build it).
> >
> > The point of the hackathon, I think, is going to be OIDs, and public key /
> private key formats (ex.: the differences between Dilithium and Falcon
> encodings in draft-uni-qsckeys, and draft-massimo-lamps-pq-sig-
> certificates).
> >
> >
> >
> > Question 1: are others interested in joining us at the hackathon? (no point
> is signing up for a hackathon spot if we’re the only ones there)
> >
> > Question 2: whether or not you're joining, what PQ X.509 / PKIX things
> would you like to see working with Dilithium, Falcon, Sphincs+, Composite?
> 
> Just as a note, you can participate in the Hackathon remotely, although in-
> person is much more rewarding if you're in the London area that weekend.
> The IETF Hackathons have helped move forward protocols in a huge variety
> of areas, sometimes by thoroughly being able to show that particular
> proposals don't work in practice. If you're a programmer (which I'm not!)
> with time and interest that weekend, consider participating even if you are
> not able to attend in person.
> 
> --Paul Hoffman

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