Re: [spring] AD Review of draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls-10

"Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com> Fri, 25 August 2017 12:43 UTC

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From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com>
To: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>, "draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-mpls@ietf.org>
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On 8/24/17, 4:44 PM, "Martin Vigoureux" <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> wrote:

Martin:

Hi!

> speaking as Shepherd.
> Regarding Q1&Q2: Indeed, Section 2 is the core of the document, and in 
> my view the section containing what is worth standardizing. 

What, exactly, is this document standardizing?

It is probably too late to argue about not having a separate mpls-focused document, so I’m not arguing against publication.  I am also not concerned about the length – it is good to see focused, clear documents.


…
> Regarding Q3: since, as you say, we can not state whether a given piece 
> of IPR is valid or not, I am not sure whether we can discuss the 
> applicability of IPR disclosures (made against other documents) to this 
> document, and vice versa.

Right.  That was a question/observation mostly for the IPR owners.  I’m just wondering whether the declaration was done against the right document since I can’t really tell what is new and different here that was not in the Architecture document.  I’ll be happy with the IPR holders just thinking about it…

Thanks!

Alvaro.