Re: [spring] CRH is not needed - Re: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?

Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> Tue, 26 May 2020 16:11 UTC

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Subject: Re: [spring] CRH is not needed - Re: How CRH support SFC/Segment Endpoint option?
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Hi Wim,

> WH> in the same way as you get CRH across the Internet. It is a tag encapsulated in an IPV6 header. It uses ipv6 encap based on RFC4023.

That assumes that there is always a router that adds an encap to an existing packet. I want to look beyond that and allow for end nodes participating directly by adding their own CRH header. In such cases there is no encap that can contain the MPLS stack.

Cheers,
Sander