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Re: [spring] Going back to the original question for the Spring WG (was: Re: Beyond SRv6.)

"Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com> Sat, 07 September 2019 17:10 UTC

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From: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com>
To: Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
CC: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, Shraddha Hegde <shraddha@juniper.net>, Rob Shakir <robjs@google.com>, SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>, "Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com>
Thread-Topic: [spring] Going back to the original question for the Spring WG (was: Re: Beyond SRv6.)
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Subject: Re: [spring] Going back to the original question for the Spring WG (was: Re: Beyond SRv6.)
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Hi,

Please see in-line.

Thanks

Regards … Zafar

From: Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl>
Date: Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 12:57 PM
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
Cc: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com>, Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>, Shraddha Hegde <shraddha@juniper.net>, Rob Shakir <robjs@google.com>, SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [spring] Going back to the original question for the Spring WG (was: Re: Beyond SRv6.)

Hi,

I noticed this bit of your message, and it made me think.

With regards to your points about its all already developed – are you really telling me that because the authors chose to go and spend ages developing something while taking zero cognizance of the consensus in the community on both the semantics of addresses and issues like header insertion and removal – just because you ignored them and wrote the code we are now meant to rubber stamp it?

Rough consensus and running code... But we work by rough consensus.
Running code that explicitly goes against consensus is no IETF standard at al.


[ZA] Please refer to section 3 of SRv6 deployment draft, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-matsushima-spring-srv6-deployment-status-01#section-3. It provides some details on the Significant industry collaboration that led to SRv6 standardization. SRv6 standardization went through the rigorous IETF process (some may say much more rigorous than typically done at IETF).

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