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Re: [spring] Draft-ietf-spring-network-programming ipv6 addressing architecture - was draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header-26 violating RFC4291, IPv6 Addressing Architecture?

"Darren Dukes (ddukes)" <ddukes@cisco.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 04:20 UTC

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From: "Darren Dukes (ddukes)" <ddukes@cisco.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
CC: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>, Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>, 6man WG <ipv6@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [spring] Draft-ietf-spring-network-programming ipv6 addressing architecture - was draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header-26 violating RFC4291, IPv6 Addressing Architecture?
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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 04:20:27 +0000
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Subject: Re: [spring] Draft-ietf-spring-network-programming ipv6 addressing architecture - was draft-ietf-6man-segment-routing-header-26 violating RFC4291, IPv6 Addressing Architecture?
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Correct Brian, no SLAAC.

Darren

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 12-Mar-20 10:44, Fernando Gont wrote:
>> On 11/3/20 18:30, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> [....]
>>> 
>>> However, I can't find anything in RFC 4291 that forbids addresses
>>> having semantic meanings rather than being pure locators. It goes
>>> against one of my design prejudices, but I can't find anything
>>> resembling "Encoding semantics in address bits considered harmful"
>>> in the RFCs.
>> 
>> Didn't *you* write that document? ;-) : RFC7136
> 
> Well yes, in the context of IIDs used for SLAAC etc. But that's a bit more
> narrow than what we are discussing here, I think. I assume that SLAAC is
> not involved.
> 
> Good catch, though ;-)
> 
>    Brian

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