[Ssh] Re: SSHM charter - next steps

David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 10 September 2024 05:16 UTC

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Hi Dan,

I think you misunderstood Deb's question. Deb's asking for
opinions, not votes. Hearing everyone's opinion is a core
part of how the IETF works. You probably don't need to
mansplain RFC 7282 to anyone here.

Regarding your statement about "unanswered concerns",
please consider substantiating such claims instead of
repeating them. I've been following this discussion, and
it appeared to me that the concerns were answered. If
that's not the case -- which is totally possible -- please
point out which claims were not answered, so that we
can ensure a discussion is had on those.

Thanks,
David

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 9:59 PM D. J. Bernstein <djb@cr.yp.to> wrote:

> Deb Cooley writes:
>   [ to one mailing-list participant ]
> > My question remains, are you in favor of a working group?  Or no?
>
> This is the second time an AD has been asking people for votes. That's
> not how IETF is supposed to work. See RFC 7282.
>
> Unanswered concerns have been expressed by various people, including me,
> regarding the WG. Please focus on addressing those concerns, rather than
> short-circuiting the discussion. The issue isn't just details of the WG
> charter; it's the broader question of whether a WG should be created.
>
> ---D. J. Bernstein
>
>