[Stackevo] an agenda for Wednesday's meeting

["Brian Trammell (IETF)" <[e-mail]>]

Greetings, all,

From discussions with the IAB and in the hallway in Prague, I'd propose a few topics of discussion for our meeting on Wednesday (13:20 in Herkovcka, mezzanine level)

(1) next/final steps on draft-thomson-use-it-or-lose-it: we'd like to get this draft ready to send up to the IAB for adoption soon.

(2) next/(final) steps for the Stack Evolution Program: what else do we want to do after finishing use-it-or-lose-it? 

This is my now-traditional annual attempt to declare victory and close the program.

(3) Following up on a question Aaron posed in the hallway: 

"To what extent is compute a part of the current Internet architecture, and to what extent are we poorly served by not treating it as such?". This is possibly a less intractable rephrasing of the "what is an endpoint?" question. The end-to-end model we use for the Internet really only applies up to a front-end load balancer for an increasing proportion of Internet traffic. To borrow a phrase from the past, everything on the other side of that LB is a catanet, albeit one that still kinda-mostly runs some transport/application stack atop IP.

What implications does this development (which has basically already happened with the migration of everything on the server-side not already on a CDN into one or more public clouds) have for the evolution of the stack and the architecture?

We could probably spend unbounded time on the question above; I'd like to know if anyone has other questions to address?

Thanks, cheers,

Brian